New
York based saxophonist Joshua Redman is widely recognised as
one of the most celebrated and popular young musicians in jazz
today, and represents the new breed of jazz artists. According
to the Associated Press, this Grammy Award nominee and son of
tenor saxophonist Dewey Redman is undoubtedly, "the crown
prince of the saxophone," while in the words of Pat Metheny
he is, "the most important new musician in twenty years."
Joshua Redman has performed and recorded with many of todays
major musical figures, such as Dave Brubeck, Chick Corea, Herbie
Hancock, Quincy Jones, Chaka Khan, B.B. King, Pat Metheny and
Marcus Miller; his talent officially recognised in 1991 with
the first prize in the Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz Competition.
In 1993, his self-titled debut and follow-up Wish
albums collectively went on to sell over a quarter of a million
copies, a rare event outside of the pop-jazz world. His latest
offering is titled Beyond and represents his seventh
release to date.
How
did your musical career initially take off?
JR:
I spent the first twenty-two years of my life training to be
pretty much everything but a musician (chuckles). I played music
from a very early age, but never wanted to pursue it professionally.
I grew up in Berklee, California, and my mum took me to this
place called The Centre for World Music, which was
basically a centre where you could get introductory instruction
in a lot of world musics, Indian music, Indonesian music, Middle
Eastern music. So the first instruments I ever played were these
South Indian drums and Indonesian Gamelan. I played in a Gamelan
orchestra when I was four years old, and then taught myself
a little guitar, took a few piano lessons, played the recorder,
the clarinet, and then the saxophone. But I had no intention
of being a professional musician. So I went to Harvard University
in Boston, and enrolled as a pre-med there, but then ended up
majoring in sociology that led me to an interest in going
to law school, so I applied and was accepted into Yale law school.
And I had every intention of going, I took what I thought was
going to be a year off, just to kind of chill and relax, and
moved to New York during that year. And in New York I got caught
up in the jazz scene, and found myself with an opportunity to
play with great, great musicians. And here I am today (chuckles).
Do
you subscribe to any particular philosophy or technique with
regards to playing the saxophone?
JR:
To me technique is never an agenda, its a resource, but
technique is always incidental. What I try to do with the saxophone
is: I am trying to sing through the saxophone. And I think drummers
are trying to sing, pianists are trying to sing. Once again
my goal is to try to communicate these things that are inside
of me, and to try to express them in hopefully original and
creative ways. And over time I have developed an interest in
exploring the saxophone as a textural instrument, not just as
a purely melodic instrument. But I think I do see the saxophone
as a melody instrument, and thats my focus.
In
the classical world what you do is regarded as extended techniques,
but in your world it is probably just a normal part of playing.
JR:
We just dont have an official name for it, but I suppose
it is extended techniques. There are a lot of things that you
can do on the saxophone that arent what it was originally
intended to do. You know, you can get harmonics out of it, you
can slap tongue it, you can pop the notes, and theres
a whole range of the saxophone called the altissimo range that
I actually explore a lot, which is really way above the range
that you are supposed to play the instrument in. So I guess
its extended techniques, but for me its more like
those are just natural extensions of my search. Its not
like I sat down one day and was like, OK, I wanna learn
a new technique on the saxophone. In the course of playing,
and in the course of hearing other people play, you start to
hear things, and I guess Im trying to stretch the limits
of my resources on my instrument, because the more things I
can do, the more I can express.
Tell
me about jazz at present. Where do you feel that its heading
stylistically?
JR:
Its heading stylistically in a multitude of directions,
and I think that the vast majority of them are very positive.
The thing that you have to understand about jazz, maybe in difference
to thirty or forty years ago is that there is no sense of a
clear linear stylistic evolution. Theres a time earlier
in the history of jazz where it was clear. You know, New
Orleans led to swing, which led to be
bop, which led to cool, so it was clear, this
was the next step. Now, I think people are stepping in all different
directions. Theres been a lot of interesting things done
with the relationship between jazz and whatever you want to
call it, hip hop music and Latin too. Some of those
I like, some I dont, but thats a very interesting
direction.
What
was the artistic ambition behind your latest release of Beyond?
JR:
Simply, the same ambition as a set of compositions that allow
us as a band to enter a certain original and creative improvisational
territory, and to try to capture those compositions, and the
performances in those compositions at moments in time, on a
record, hopefully in an inspired way. And thats the same
as any record Ive done. Now, there really is a sense that
I have with this music and this record that Im starting
to find something which is much more personal and original than
some of the earlier stuff I have done. So to me, right now,
it seems to signal a new stage, just in terms of feeling like
the music is more ours than previous records that I have done.
And there are conceptual elements that really maybe go beyond
some of the traditional elements of jazz. There are things that
we are doing with time signatures that are really different,
and really hard in some ways (chuckles), but I dont focus
on those too much because those arent ends in themselves.
You know, I could go through the tunes and tell you how one
is in thirteen, one is in nine and one is in ten, but I dont
do that to prove that we can do it, its just that Ive
started to hear music thats not in the traditional kind
of four-four swing time. And I find that a lot of those songs
allow us to get to a different type of feeling than the traditional
four-four swing does.
Beyond
out on WEA Records.